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family feud over their future, republicans gather today for their annual conservative meeting. it's the political action conference known as cpac. known for the surprise refrain of the same old faces from the political right. up close this morning, a man who needs no introduction. former florida congressman, allen west. >> i'll give it to you straight. last november we took one on the jaw. but this movement and this fight is not determined by the punches that we take. we're defined by how quickly we pull ourselves off the mat and our perseverance. when barack obama packs his bags and beats a hasty retreat back to chicago, we will persevere. >> on deck for later today, senators marco rubio and rand paul. texas governor rick perry and south carolina's newest senator, tim scott. back inside the beltway, president obama will return to the capitol for a third straight day of meetings. yesterday the president ventured

into hostile territory, grilled by house republicans looking for an upper hand in the budget battles. >> i thought that we had a very frank and candid exchange of ideas. the president understands we've got long-term spending that we need to deal with. but he's going to hold hostage the fact that he wants to raise taxes on the american people. >> again, if the president wants to let our unwillingness to raise taxes get in the way, then we're not going to be able to set differences aside and focus on what we agree on. >> so with -- obama himself down played the outreach during remarks last night to his policy armoring for ak action. >> the press in washington has been reporting about obama's charm offensive. all i've been doing is calling up folks and trying to see if we can breakthrough some of the

gobbledygook of our politics here. >> joining me this morning is tennessee republican congresswoman diane black who is scheduled to speak tomorrow at cpac and she attended yesterday's meeting president obama. it's great to have you here. i want to start out talking about speaker boehner. he has an op-ed out today in the "washington post" saying that for all of washington's focus on the president's outreach to republicans, its his engagement to members of his own party determines if we succeed. this was said of speaker boehner. now that obama is appearing to lead from the front, dining with gop senators and practically camping out on capitol hill this week, boehner has become speaker behind. i hear you chuckling there. is john boehner leading from behind now? what are the hard choices he's willing to make that you've heard? >> this is what we've been saying all along. we want the president to do what he said he would do during his campaign. he's already gotten his tax increase. $600 billion.

he said he would give us two cuts for every $1 that he got in new revenue. we're ready to have him come to the table with what he promised during the campaign. >> congresswoman, when we look at the dueling budget plans, the democratic plan evenly balanced between revenues and the spending cuts that you talk about. the republican plan is all spending cuts. there is no revenue in there. when we couple that with the new "washington post" abc news poll saying it shows approval, everyone's approval ratings are down but republicans in congress have a whopping 72% disapproval. doesn't the president have more political capital when it comes to fighting for what he wants do and the fact that he ran on revenues back in november? >> well, i haven't seen the poll. but let me tell you what i do know about polls. i know that the american people want us to live within our means. we have a debt crisis. we can't not get away from that. $16 trillion in debt. more deficit spending. the democrats' program, their

budget says that we're going to have $1 trillion more of taxes. i don't think the american people want more taxesment but more than that, they want us to balance our budget. our budget balances this ten years. we do know that the american public expects us to live within our means. who do they think is more likely do that? you will find that that poll says that republicans are more trusted in that area. so if -- >> if that were the case, wouldn't mitt romney be our president in. >> this was a very, very close election. we know that there were a lot of other things besides just the spending issue that was an issue this election. we can spend a lot of time talking about a postmortem on that election. but on this issue, balancing our budget and living within our means, we know clearly that the american people believe that republicans are more likely to do that than the democrats are. obviously -- >> one thing i wanted to bring in -- >> that is so. >> congresswoman, about cpac, i

mentioned you're going to be speaking there tomorrow. the list of speakers, not a lot of new faces. mitt romney, donald trump, sarah palin, among those speaking. does this get more clout to those who would say the conservatives didn't learn lessons from november and trodding out old achilles heels to be the face of the republican party party? >> you see tim scott, marco rubio, these are new young faces on the scene of the conservative march. i think you do see new faces. this is an opportunity for us to focus on what unites us. i'm really excited about being there. this is my first time therement i'm going to talk about my living the american dream. so this is going to be a good opportunity for me to say the american people, i am not the prototype of living that american dream. i want to be here to set policies so that others can have that same opportunity that i did. >> again, you'll be speaking tomorrow. we wish you luck with that. congresswoman diane black. thank you. >> thank you for having me.

>> absolutely. with cpac kicking off into high gear, anticipation is growing as mitt romney getting ready to reemerge from the shadows tomorrow. his cpac speech will be his first public appearance since election night. overshadowing that is the bartender who secretly reported the 47% comments, finally explaining why he wanted that tape made public is an exclusive interview with our ed schultz. >> i don't think he has any clue what a regular american goes through on a daily basis. i don't think he has any idea what a single mom taking a bus to work, dropping the kid off at the daycare that she can barely afford, hopping on another bus. the day-in, day-out struggles of everyday americans, that guy has no idea. people could decide for themselves whether they agreed with him or not. i felt like it was my duty to

make sure that as many people heard it as possible. >> joining me now, sean spicer welcome from the rnc. as we all know and as we covered, that tape arguably made it a lot harder for mitt romney to win the election and reemerges as romney publicly reemerges to a crowd. the guy behind this, scott prouty, he's a regular guy, an independent. he's not tied to any political organization. in your estimation from the rnc's standpoint, how much do the comments continue to haunt romney and the party? >> well, there's no question, they're not helpful. i mean, governor romney said so much. part of the reason that we're moving forward and, again, i think what we can't do is not learn lessons from what happened in november. not only in the presidential election but throughout the entire party. that's what we've been focused on doing, ha do we need to do better in unquestionably comment like that don't help us. we have been focused on trying

to figure out what's the way forward, messaging, tone, demographics, the whole spectrum, if you will of what it's going to take to grow our party and win more elections. >> you talk about message willing and tone. cpac's organizers caught flack because they excluded rising gop stars like the governors chris christie and mcdonnell. cpac reflect the current state of the republican party just four months after its second straight presidential defeat. what is that current state? well, it's in the midst of an identity crisis. in the rnc's view, sean, is it a misstep to not invite the governors who have a high approval rating and not speak at cpac. pause they don't always tow the conservative line. they might not meet the pure at this test for cpac. >> we think highly of governor mcdonnell and christie. they're extremely popular, done great things within their states and we're very proud that they're shining stars in our

party. governor mcdonnell who has had a successful tenure as chairman of the republican governor's association. governor christie has been a leader in that organization as well. we think very highly of them. i think a lot of cpac. but it's not our decision who speaks there and who doesn't. i get it. but it's also cpac is not the rnc and vice versa. they decide for themselves who they're going to invite. as someone who watched a chairman and team put together a convention, there's always more speakers than roles. i don't want to get into how they have to make their decision on who got to speak and when and how. i think there were plenty of people who wondered why we didn't have so-and-so speak at such time during the convention. those are all tough decisions. i'm not here to second-guess cpac. i can tell you from an rnc standpoint, both of those governors are successful because they're getting things done and we think highly of them here at the rnc. >> let's talk about specifically the rnc. on monday, the 18th is going to

release the autopsy of the 2012 election. this is the investigation, the investigation that the rnc has put together to move forward. rooints recently talked about that and attributed it to this network. take a listen. >> you'll see the skeleton of this plan start to roll out in the next few weeks. if you look real hard, you'll see that i've made comments similar to what i just told you on this issue in the press over the last couple of weeks and that controlling the debate process, getting involved in moderators and networks and all of these other issues so that we don't have chaos. i mean, we just can't have msnbc, you know, hosting a debate at the reagan library only to have their network make the commentary afterwards for three hours about the debate of the republican party. it's ridiculous. >> sean, is the autopsy going to

give substantial results other than finger pointing at the media as to what went wrong? where the election went off track for republicans? >> well, i think first i don't think there's much finger pointing at the immediameet i c per se. the response would be a forward looking document to how to move forward. one area will be the primary process, the debate, the convention et cetera. there's going to be several recommendations in that area that will improve our chances going into 2016. but with respect to the debate, i think there's an area where we have to look at how our candidates, whether there's too many, how they're held, who is moderating them, those are very important. remember, these are debates and a process by which the party and its members are choosing a nominee. there's been a lot of criticism from the candidates themselves an the grassroots about how that process worked.

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so developing news coming in from capitol hill. the senate judiciary committee has just passed the assault weapons ban.

the vote strictly along party lines, 10-8. senator dianne feinstein was given a history lesson on the cons fusion by freshman senator ahead of this passage and she promptly shot back. >> it seems to me that all of us should begin as our foundational document with the constitution. and the second amendment in the bill of the rights for the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. >> i'm not a sixth grader. i thank you for the lecture. incidentally, this does not prohibit you use the word prohibit. it exempts 2,271 weapons. isn't that enough? >> the assault weapons ban moves to a vote in the full senate. that's likely to come up next month. all right. so it is the beginning of a new era for the catholic church today. the newly elected pope francis taking part in a private prayer service it morning at the santa maria basilica in rome.

his first official event was a huge contrast to the events we witnessed yesterday. certainly the crowds outside the sistine chapel going wild when the chimney spewed white smoke signaling the election of a new pope. pope bergoglio was elected. the first latin american, first jesuit, first named francis. the first to meet his predecessor in more than 600 years. new york cardinal timothy dolan says francis will give the church new life. catholics optimistic about that change. >> the chair of st. peter was empty, now it's full again. that gives us hope and renewal. let's watch close. i think we're going to see a lot of renewal. >> it's wonderful that we finally have a pope that can represent a large piece of

community, the latinos. >> it took such a short amount of time. he wasn't a front-runner. that's great. that means there's a different kind of blood, a different mentality. >> means there's change coming. it's a reason for hope. >> he has so many issues to take care of. just so many. i'm going to pray a lot for him. >> where pope emeritus benedict is staying is quiet. pope francis is expected to meet with him in the next few days. at the vatican briefing today, there was a briefing on why he's being called quote "very humble". >> when they left the sistine chapel to return to santa marta, a special car was prepared for him with the license plate with number one. he said no, i'm going in the bus because i came here in the bus with all of you. i'll drive back in the bus. at the dinner there was a toast to him at the end of the meal. he just said a few words and at the end, he said may god forgive

you for what you've done. >> joining me from the vatican is chris jansing as well as a father for the vatican museums. chris, i want to start with you. as we watched the crowd, they were massive yesterday. they've died down now obviously. the social media crowds were massive as well. more than 7 million tweets, 130,000 per minute after that announcement. what's been the reaction today to pope francis and the hope that he brings to the future of the church? >> well, first of all, the crowds will come back because he's going to be at the window of the papal apartments on sunday for the usual ud jeaudie. i think there's a sense of hope. he's not going to do all the things necessarily that all catholics, especially american catholics want him to do. he's got a lot on his plate. we've talked about the sexual abuse scandal and the reform, the bureaucracy that is the vatican. that would be huge for anybody. this guy is 76 years old and he

has one lung. yeah, when i talked to cardinal dolan this morning and i asked him about the conclave and what it was like in there, here's what he told me about it. >> it was difficult for me to make up my mind at first. but i mean it when i say, i'm hard boiled when it comes to the spiritual life. you could sense the gentle breeze of the holy spirit and gradually you saw this man emerge and as you'd watch him and listen to the cardinals who know him well and as you saw just the acclimation of the college of cardinals moving in his direction, there was a great sense of resignation and peace. >> and i would say cardinal dolan also looked relieved of course. he was someone mentioned often as a possible contender for pope. but he certainly leaves here, i think, with a lot more influence and it will be interesting to see how that works on the american catholic church. thomas? >> father hey due, as chris

brought up, leadership of the church and as we know, one of the first acts of the pope is to be to read this 300-page investigative dossier on the scandal that pope benedict left under lock and key. it could be sexual misconduct that occurred, as well as corruption within the vatican. how do you foresee pope francis to handle that and make it transparent so the 1.2 billion catholics around the world know what's in that? >> you know, thomas, i think one of the things i always think about when talking about this new breeze of hope is that hope isn't burying your head in the sand and not seeing the problems. part of hope is seeing the problems and kwon fronting them with the spirit of initiative, ingenuity, new ideas. what we're all hoping isn't so much to know everybody's dirty laundry as much as whatever that is, let's fix it.

we don't want to be part of the problem and part of the solution. part of the new era is to move on. confronting the past and confronting the future. with hope and confidence and putting solutions to the problems which we all want. >> father and chris swrjansing m rome. thank you. the papal seagull, the bird perched atop the chimney several times, prompting of course the papal seagull hash tag and its own twitter account. the bird tweeted look mom, the "today" show loves me. cpac 2.0. the republican plan to try and rebrand itself. plus, sharp criticism, the tsa standing its ground amidst growing opposition to its new policy allowing knives back on planes. five flight attendant unions are speaking out. first, we bring today's producer pick. brought to you by segment

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so it's being called the new march madness, republicans are gathering out the beltway in maryland for their annual cpac conference. still scheduled to speak on day one, senators marco rubio, rand paul and tim scott and former presidential candidate and texas governor rick perry. it was former congressman who kicked off the day and seemed to allude to the heart of the gop. >> this conference, this audience, these values all jealously guard conservative identity from liberal wolves in sheeps clothing. >> joining me for sound off is s.e. kupp co-host of the cycle. one of the big talkers out of cpac is the straw poll that will take place. senators rubio and rand paul on

the speaking list. both have gotten 2016 buzz. one off the poland springs water bottle gate, the other off the epic filibuster. who has the best chance of taking the straw poll? >> that's what's great about cpac, we're a diverse tent. you have someone like rand paul with libertarian bend and marco rubio, who i would put somewhere more toward the middle. it's such a great celebration of diversity. also on the straw poll, chris christie who was not invited as you mow to cpac. we get it wrong there. trying to shun certain members out of the big tent when we should be celebrated just how diverse and interesting we are. >> you called it the purity test, the cpac purity test. which is different than the -- bob mcdonnell is great, two governors not invited. but they don't pass the cpac

theory. >> we have to stop judging conservatives on a sliding scale of conservativeness. who is getting a right on the issues, who is too conservative, who is too moderate. instead we need to judge our leaders and our candidates on a vertical scale of effectiveness. are they effective communicators. do they put us in a good light. chris christie absolutely does. whatever sorts of hits and misses on the horizontal sliding scale of conservatism, that has to be put aside. he's a really good spokesperson for the gop. >> someone like christie does have a future, meanwhile we're getting people from the past, mitt romney reemerging, showcasing the man behind the 47% tape, a bartender from florida who was with our ed schultz last night talking about why he wanted to get this tape out and what he has to say about romney now. take a listen. >> i think the guy needs to respect the will of the voters.

the election wasn't even that close. i think he needs to take personal responsibility for his campaign. take responsibility for the words he said. and move forward. >> does mitt romney move forward if he owns it, recognizes that was the achilles heel of his campaign, recognize where he screwed up? and tries to get people, like a scott prouty who says he's an independent, doesn't have a political bent. wasn't out to tank his campaign but felt the words needed to be shared. >> i hardly think he's a political expert or analyst. i don't think mitt romney needs to take advice from him. but to that point -- >> that's the guy who would elect mitt romney. >> who knows. >> this is a guy who clearly wanted to put himself into the mix or he would have released this and gone away. he wants his opinions out there. good for him. >> come on. >> mitt romney can take advice from other folks. >> he didn't come out -- the tape came out. he did not show up until last night.

it's not like he made a maim for himself. >> months later out of nowhere. for what reason? i mean, mitt romney, i'm sure -- >> he didn't get paid for his interview. >> that doesn't matter. i'm sure mitt romney has learned the lessons from his campaign. the mistakes that he made on camera, off camera, behind the scenes and i'm sure he's very contemplative about that. i expect at cpac for him to be humble and to sort of jolt the base back into an exciting kind of mood. >> se kupp always great to see you. you can watch weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. joining us now is the man who beat allen west in the 2012 election, florida's democratic congressman patrick murphy. sir to great to have you join us. >> thanks, tom. president obama will be traveling to capitol hill for the third time in as many days. he's going to meet with senate republicans and then house

democrats. republicans like john boehner say the charm offensive fine, where is the leadership? listen to what congressman barney frank had to say on morning joe today on the personal relationships. >> i think the personal is he -- i put this. bad personal relationships can make things worse, good personal relations can make things better. >> do you think the smile and handshake campaign will allow the president to find the common ground with allen west types in the republican house? >> there's no question that relationships do count. i've seen it internally within the freshman class. on both sides of the aisle, we've focused on getting to know each other and each other's families. it makes a real difference. it's a lot tougher to call someone a name when you know their wife's name and kids' names. i'm not saying that would work with all members. there are some that are stuck in their ways and never going to compromise. by and large, there's a group in this freshman class. and i think a growing number that do want to compromise and

where those relationships that sort of outreach that the president is doing now will make a difference. >> as we talk about that outreach, the latest numbers from an abc news "washington post" poll, it shows that the president's job approval rating has taken a hit over this. do you recognize that's an opening for the gop to take advantage of? >> i haven't seen those numbers. the fact is, the president is doing what he should be doing. it's making the tough decisions, it's putting everything on the table. explaining to the republicans that he wants a balanced approach. that's what it's all about. you talk to any economist out there. you talk to any business owner. they understand that. before you get our fiscal house in order, which is what the focus should be, we have do it in a balanced manner. that's what the president is trying to do. he's trying to build these relationships. if his ratings take a hit right now, i think they will come back in a couple years. not that he has to worry about it, of course. that's a major short term role, the long-term picture is what matters. >> as a newly elected member of

the 213th has your shiny optimism come in to make changes, has that eroded at all once you get inside that bubble of the beltway? >> there's no question, i'm still in that honeymoon phase where everything is exciting and enjoying the challenge. there is a group of people in congress on both sides of the aisle that are trying to make a difference and compromise and make the tough decisions. when they want to put everything on the table, that's saying something. there's also a group that perhaps aren't in it for the right reasons. most people know the difference. but there is a growing group of people willing to make the compromisement i'm part of a group called no label. doesn't matter republican or democrat. it's about finding solutions to the problems we have and not demagoguing and pointing the finger and blaming others. let's move forward. >> congressman patrick murphy. thanks for coming on. >> thank you. we're bringing knives on board. that's right, the topic of what is happening at our nation's

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the head of the tsa was on the "today" show and stood by his decision. >> the challenge becomes if we focus on something that will not cause a catastrophic failure to an aircraft and miss something that could, then we haven't done our job to the millions of people, 12 1/2 million people who travel every week, 630 million people every year in the u.s. want our focus on the highest threat item. >> want to go to tom costello for the latest on this. we hear from the tsa chief there, he's not backing down on this. but what's their evaluation over the last 12 years that makes them feel this is a nonissue anymore? >> i think this is an important point. i don't know pistole who is widely respected and admired is arguing that the real threat posed to airlines is in the form of explosives and biological agents. that al qaeda is determined still to bring down an aircraft and that's the only way they can do it because we have hardened

cockpit doors now. the problem for the tsa is that just about everybody else who was involved in aviation safety has come out against this. their own union representing the tsa officers is against this. the flight attendants represented by ed markey and behind him are some of the flight attendants, they've come out against this. many pilots' organizations have come out against it. u.s. airways, american and delta against it. the list is growing. on capitol hill this afternoon, the tsa chief john pistole who you saw there will be on capitol hill to defend this position, but he's going to take it from both sides. at the same time, there is some body of thinking on capitol hill oddly enough, among the republicans, the obama administration has support with the republicans on the hill who agree with this plan to allow these short blade knives, no more than 2.3 inches to be allowed in carry-ones because they think the tsa has gone too far anyway.

there are strange bedfellows in in particular argument. but the tsa is really getting an earful right now. >> the flight attendants, the unions, he started this online petition to keep the knives off planes. we're watching this press conference. the unification of groups coming together to talk about this. is it going to be more up to the american people to get involved than the unions or will we see the fact as we watch the tsa chief talk about standing by his decision on this, is it really going to be up to the american people to voice their concerns? >> well, i think that that's always in the democracy, that's always the way things work. by the way, that's sara nelson who represents the flight attendants. i interviewed her yesterday. her argument is this. we've spent the last 11 years since 9/11 trying to make that cabin safer and we believe it is a safer environment and every day in the skies somebody acts a little bit crazy or stupid and needs to be restrained by either a flight attendant or other passengers.

we don't want to re-enter knives into this equation. the tsa is saying we're spending entirely too much time looking for the small little knives that really slow down the checkpoint process and distract us from our bigger job and we think it's okay to allow the small knives to go through and by the way, they're allowed in other countries and we've had no problems whatsoever. this is really a back -- i don't think the tsa anticipated this kind of resistance from virtually every stakeholder involved in airline safety. they would also point out that they have received many newspaper editorials who support, that support their position. so we'll see how this plays out on capitol hill and whether lawmakers have their own ideas. >> nbc's tom costello. thank you. other stories topping the news. a ten-month-old baby survived an eight-story plunge from a new york city building. the boy was strapped to his mom's chest. she didn't survive. she reportedly wrote a suicide note before jumping out of the window. jodi arias's trial wrapping up. the testimony of that witness after 19 days on the stand.

she started on february 4th, just finished yesterday. she's accused of brutally killing her boyfriend. she claims she doesn't remember doing it at all. the rape trial steubenville, ohio. the defense claims even though she was drunk, she knew what she was doing. beware this video. watch that dog run across the street and viciously attack a young girl walking on the sidewalk. a group of men running quickly to help. luckily, she only got minor injuries. ashley judd still considering throwing her hat into the ring. a run for u.s. senate against senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. this election is a year away but if you watch local tv, you might think that election was weeks away.

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as speculation continues to rise o over an ashley judd candidacy. mitch mcconnell is about to release an -- this six-figure ad buy features his wife.six-figur features his wife, former secretary of labor, elaine cho. joining me is congressman john yarmouth, a democrat from kentucky. what do you make of mcconnell's fast and furious ad buy. and why he's doing it right now? >> one more indication, that mitch is very insecure about his re-election. he knows he has trouble, particularly with women. this ad was specifically targeted to women over 25. that was the statement from his campaign manager. and as someone who voted against the violence against women act and has consistently supported programs that don't support women's values, i think he's got a lot of work do do. >> congressman, what's the inside track? does this ad indicate in the rising number of democrats

targeting mcconnell, really show that ashley judd is about to announce her candidacy? i mean the speculation has been she's going to do it on derby day. >> well, that would be the wrong day to do it. i think people will be pretty distracted in kentucky. >> well around the derby. >> right. around the derby, that sounds like a good target date. but i'm fully convinced that she's going to run. she has not told me definitively that she's made that decision. but i don't think you do all the things she's done unless you intend to make race. i think she's going to be a terrific candidate. and i think just the media furor of her thinking about the race is a case of how formidable she'll be. she'll have every opportunity to define herself and not let mitch define her. >> meanwhile, she'll have a lot of opportunity potentially to be seen by millions of people. because ashley's sister, wynonna is going to be on "dancing with the stars." i think back to when sarah palin

was sitting in the audience, when her daughter, bristol, competed on "dancing with the stars" a couple of cycles ago. that's just free publicity. free advertising right there. >> it is, once again it solidifies her image as a kentuckyian, someone who has deep roots in the commonwealth. every time that name judd is mentioned, it will call more attention to her candidacy. and again, the most important thing is mitch has survived by demonizing and defining relatively lesser-known candidates. and he won't have that strategy available to him with ashley judd. >> but as we talk about kentucky politics and you can talk about this firsthand. mitch mcconnell has been a survivor. and with ashley judd throwing her hat into the ring, you know, potentially, do you think that she would just be labeled as this hollywood liberal that's coming in to try to just make a ruckus for him, but he could overall win? >> the people of kentucky first and foremost, want to vote for somebody that they're

comfortable with. they aren't comfortable with mitch mcconnell. they never have been. he's been a begrudging victor in most of his races. they like ashley judd. she's a university of kentucky graduate. she goes to many of the home basketball games. she leads cheers there. so again, she is a very widely popular figure in kentucky. and i think these labels of hollywood liberal just aren't going to stick. >> and real quickly, before i let you go, i want to get your take on what happened earlier today in the senate. this feisty exchange between senators ted cruz and dianne feinstein. just before the senate judiciary committee passed feinstein's assault weapons ban. take a listen. >> it seems to me that all of us should begin as our foundational document, with the constitution. and the second amendment in the bill of rights provides that the right of the people to keep an bear arms shall not be infringed. >> i'm not a sixth grader. senator, i've been on this committee for 20 years. and i thank you for the lecture.

incidental incidentally, this does not prohibit you use the word "prohibit" it exempts 2,271 weapons. isn't that enough? >> sir, as we know the prospects in the full senate are bright for this do you think it's ever going to make it over to you in the house? >> the assault weapons ban? i think it's highly unlikely. i've said on a number of occasions, i don't really think that's the most important gun safety law we can pass. i think number one is background checks. number two, high-capacity magazines. and number three, and strengthening our trafficking laws. so i'm not as concerned about the fate of an assault weapons ban as i am the others. >> the american people as we all watch this, should we expect that if there is going to be anything comprehensive reform on gun violence in the country, it's going to be done by baby steps and not something broad and sweeping? >> i think so. you know, clearly, with background checks, polls show

90% of the american people are in favor of them. it's a number of about 75% in my own state. so i think there's certain things that are going to be easier to do than others. and probably a comprehensive ban. a comprehensive piece of legislation will probably contain poison pills that will keep any of them from being enact enacted. >> congressman john yarmuth, thanks for joining me from kentucky. that's going to wrap up things for me, i'll see you tomorrow. independent senator from maine, angus king will join me. "now" with alex wag anywhener c up, a special treat for you, joy anne reed is filling in. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 seems like etfs are everywhere these days. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 but there is one source with a wealth of etf knowledge

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